Correction: Use astrology to find your birth time (2023)

Correction: Use astrology to find your birth time (1)

In episode 169 of the podcast, astrologers Chris Brennan, Leisa Schaim, and Patrick Watson provide a detailed introduction to rectification, a technique used to determine a person's birth time when it is unknown or uncertain.

Rectification is often considered one of the most difficult tasks in astrology because it is essentially a research process with many variables to consider.

It is also very important because an exact time of birth is often critical to the application of many techniques in astrology, from the simplest like the twelve houses to more sophisticated timing techniques.

As a result, it may be necessary to make some kind of correction when someone does not know their time of birth or when the recorded time of birth is only approximate and needs to be adjusted.

Leisa and Patrick regularly carry out grinding work for clients. You can learn more about his work here:

Chris currently doesn't consult, but has one.Natal chart correction coursewhere you can learn your approach.

Rectification is a pretty broad topic, so we had a lot to cover and it ended up being a 3 hour long episode. There is an audio version and a video version of this episode available below. The audio quality in the audio version is better than the video version, but both are equivalent in content.

Below are the show notes followed by links to download or stream the replay of this podcast episode.


  • Correction:Definition of our terms.
    • Correct: correct, straighten, rectify.
    • A commonly used method to determine a time of birth when it is unknown or uncertain.
  • Many techniques in astrology require precise timing.
    • Both the interpretation of the birth and the houses and timing techniques.
    • Requires touch up in some cases.
  • The term is sometimes used broadly to refer to the reverse engineering of a general graphic.
    • The oldest historical reference I have found dates from the 1st century BC. (Varro).
      • Try to find the map of Rome and its founder.
  • The basic requirement is that the natal chart describe the quality of life and future events.
    • As an extension, one should be able to reverse engineer a graph of known events.
    • The rectification applies this theory in practice, generally in cases of necessity.
  • When is grinding usually required?
    • Limited known time window versus 24 hour correction.
    • Approximate time of birth recorded, but needs to be more accurate for a given technique.
    • The worst case is when there is absolutely no time of birth in the entire 24 hour period.
    • The worst case scenario is that they have a rough idea of ​​the time of day.
    • The best scenario is when they have a full rhythm that just needs to be tuned.
      • Although even that can be difficult for people with spitting ancestors.
  • Correction by necessity versus by principle.
    • Chris always saw rectification as a matter of necessity.
    • But I know some astrologers who believed that all charts should be corrected (for example, Axel Harvey).
      • The argument for this is that they can often be rounded.
        • There's no guarantee that even a decent performance time will register accurately.
    • The argument against it is that the recorded time can be accurate regardless of the astrologer.
      • They may not be looking for the right techniques or may not have a complete knowledge of life.
      • So it's risky to correct everything as I could be wrong.
  • Correction as speculative
    • The main underlying problem is that, ultimately, a correction is always speculative.
    • If the time of birth is not discovered later, there is no sure way to verify it.
    • Each astrologer uses their own preferred correction techniques.
      • As a result, different astrologers may come to different conclusions.
    • Because of this, all grinding should be taken with a grain of salt.
    • If a repair is claimed, you must explain it in advance.
      • For example, if you ask an astrologer for advice.
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  • grinding strategies
  • First, it is important to search for records everywhere.
    • Try to find the birth certificate, birth registration, baby book, etc.
    • Talk to parents, other relatives, see if they remember the time of day.
    • It may be useful to shorten the period, e.g. B. dawn, night, etc.
    • However, be careful, as the parents' memories may not be reliable.
  • Rising Sign Correction versus Rising Degree Correction.
    • It's easier to figure out the rising sign than the rising degree.
    • This should always be your first starting point as there are only 12 signals.
    • To usewhole houses of signsit makes it easier
      • Because all the houses change with each rising sign.
      • Big difference between one rising sign and another.
    • Within a few hours, only 2-3 signals may be available.
    • Essentially it becomes a process of comparing 2 or 3 different charts.
    • Once you have reduced the right rising sign, you can reduce the degree.
  • Demonstrate the improvement by talking to the customer.
    • Primary data is known characteristics and events in the customer's past life.
    • Some correspond to birth locations, others are associated with timing techniques.
    • A clear view of the client's life is an important variable, as is a good memory or records.
      • Much of what you do depends on accurate reports from them.
    • You need to ask good questions and listen carefully to the answers to find subtle clues.
      • Sometimes it is important to realize when your perception is not correct.
        • This in itself can sometimes be an important clue.
    • What are some of the most important events that have happened in your life?
      • What makes your life different from other lives in general?
      • Pain point: People normalize their unique experiences.
    • Focus on the useful and the bad.
    • Most of the time one wants to focus on issues that correspond to the 12 houses.
    • 1. Casa:character, body, appearance,2. Casa:finances, possessions,3. Casa:siblings, travel, education,4. Casa:parents, home, living situation,5. Casa:Kinder,6. Casa:illness, injury, work, subordinates,7. Casa:relationships, partners,8. Casa:death, other people's money,9. Casa:religion, travel, foreign, education,10. Casa:career, reputation,11. Casa:friends, groups,12. Casa:Enemies, loss, isolation.
  • Knowledge of natal astrology as a basis for correction.
    • Your ability to correct a horoscope depends on your understanding of natal astrology.
    • You need to know what to expect from one home location versus another.
    • Also the ability to be flexible and see how different locations play out for people.
    • Not only about the house locations, but also about the local side.
      • Caution should be exercised in the case of overlapping indications.
  • Start to rectify.
    • Being able to animate the chart really speeds up the process.
    • We all use Solar Fire for this.
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    • Find out your time frame and try to reduce the rising signal.
  • Natal chart placements to consider.
    • What changes over time do you have to expect?
    • Ascendant: the quality of the sign, planets in the sign.
    • Ruling Planet of the Ascendant, its condition and location in the house.
    • Moon sign changes
      • Apply/deactivate aspects of the moon
    • Changes in the sun and other planetary signs (rare)
    • To usebenevolent/malicious along with cultextremely helpful in proofreading
      • Placement of the most positive and most negative planetary house.
      • However, nerfs can make this more difficult.
  • Timing Techniques:
    • Once you've narrowed down the possibilities, look at timing techniques.
    • People tend to use the same timing tools for grinding that they normally use.
    • House passages are especially important, especially the slower planets.
      • Saturn and Jupiter pass through all the houses of the signs.
        • Jupiter and Saturn because their natures are so different
        • Finally, you can narrow this down to specific degrees.
    • yearly prophecies
      • One sign/house per year.
    • Other techniques based on graduation.
      • zodiac release– you can try adjusting a bit if there are a lot of signs of movement
      • secondary progressions
      • solar arcs
      • main directions
  • closing words
    • The correction depends mainly on your ability to draw natal charts.
      • Just apply your approach to Christmas to create expectations.
    • Ultimately it is speculative and should be treated with caution.
    • However, sometimes it is necessary and can be very useful.

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